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CHRIST THE ROCK PROPHECIES
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Dream:
CTR to split 5 ways if the leadership did not repent of “control”. Late
that week Norm Kopesky who was in some role of leadership has similar
prophecy. Leadership retreat followed w/ repentance. DV informed. |
Fall in the late 1980’s |
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Word:
God gives me Ez. 2-6 and begins to make it clear that He is calling me to
proph. to someone. I will have to shout it from the roof tops. |
August of 1998 |
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Dream:
Jan would die on a Sunday a.m. Tim Stephani and I would be at the service
that some man would announce her death. Met w/ Jan & Dave. Knew the
prophecy would be for Bill. |
Days after Jan was pronounced cancer free 1999 |
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Details:
I had a dream just a few days after Jan Lenz
was diagnosed as cancer free that she was actually going to die. I was not
told in the dream which Sunday that it would happen, but I knew that it
would be a Sunday Morning in the near future. In the dream she informed me
that there were some things that needed to be dealt with before her death.
Things regarding Lois. The house. And most important Dave. When she
finished speaking I told her that I would make sure that I would help Dave
make the transition of living without her regarding his and Lois’ domestic
needs. She left suddenly and Dave entered the foyer of the church. He was
very upset with me which was quite odd because our relationship was always
close, jovial, and smooth. His upsetness in the dream was disconcerting. I
asked what was going on. The scene in the dream changed. I was sitting in
the sanctuary. Tim Stephani and I were in the back to the left of the
center of the stage. I saw a man walk up to the podium of the old CTR
sanctuary, interrupt the worship part of the ceremony and announce that Jan
had died. Tim was sitting next to me. Neither of our spouses or children
were with us. Immediately in the dream I was standing in the foyer of the
church near the bathroom doors. Tim Stephani was standing ahead of me in
the doorway of the sanctuary. Bill was standing near the windows to my
left. We were all three looking back and forth at each other very
intently. I was wondering what this could mean and then noticed that Bill
did not look upset. I looked back at Tim and he too was noticing. A rush
of people came into the foyer then. Bob Lenz’s son, David, came up and fell
on me. He was weeping. “Where is your dad?” I asked him. He responded by
saying, “He is not here.” His upsetness affected me so much that I woke
up. When I woke up I received a Word from the Lord that I was to tell five
people of this dream as soon as was possible. I also was told that the
message that I was to tell was for Bill and that somehow I was going to
actually live out the message that would be given.
I woke Douglas up. I told him
the dream and also that it was one of the dreams that were from God and that
it would come true. I couldn’t calm down so I got up and took a shower. I
got ready for work and went to Jan and Dave’s house. I arrived there just
before 6:00a.m. Dave and Jan’s sister Ileen were there cleaning up and
preparing breakfast. Jan was sitting at the table. I sat beside her on the
window bench and laid my head on her shoulder and cried. Dave kept saying
that she was going to be alright and that the doctors had said that she was
cancer free now. I shook my head no as I tried to compose myself and Jan
took hold of my face and asked me, “No?”. I shook my head no again. “Tell
me.” She said. So I began to tell her the dream. She picked up a pen as I
told her and began writing down the things that needed to be dealt with.
One thing I recall is that Lois was going to have some kind of trouble
getting into Jan’s room as she was dying and she made a note to let Dave
know that he should inform the nurses that Lois would have complete access
to her room. She did not doubt what I was telling her at all. She said
that she would speak to Dave about the “anger” and that I should come over
after work. During this discussion both Dave and Ileen were upset and kept
saying things like, “she’s going to be fine,” and “the doctors said that she
is better.” things like that. I am certain that Ileen will recall this
mornings events.
When I arrived at Dave’s after
work Jan called him into the kitchen. They both sat across from me. She
had to urge Dave to begin to tell me why he was angry. Dave said that he
was not angry but that he was afraid of me. I was shocked. He explained
that he had gotten from Bill this idea that I was going to try to destroy
the church. When I asked him how he thought that I could do such a thing
Dave had no response. I then asked him why after so much time of Douglas
and I being away from the church did he think that now I would do something
to hurt them. He again had no response. I explained the best that I could
to Dave that I had problems with just a very few individuals at CTR but that
they were not the church itself. I was listing people there that I loved
and had ministered to and that I would never do anything to hurt. I
remember saying that if I had wanted to hurt the church that wouldn’t it be
logical that I would have done it four or five years ago when we left? He
seemed appeased. Jan then took his hand and told him to say to me that I
would always be welcome at their house. I thought that that was odd. I
never thought that my welcome there was in any jeopardy. I actually felt
like a part of that family. But she made Dave say, as if it were some kind
of commitment that I would always be welcome there. And he did.
Within two days I had told the following people
of the dream and the feeling that it would lead to the message of a prophecy
that still was coming for Bill.
1.
Douglas Pirkey
2.
Tim Stephani
3.
Jeanne Levknecht
4.
Julie Duffy
5.
Robin Deltour
6.
Julie Gross
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Katy Brennan |
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Fulfilled:
Jan dies on Sunday. |
September or August of 1999 |
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Details of Jan’s Death:
Jan became ill again just a few months later.
She was hospitalized, I believe, on a Monday. That Sunday a.m. Tim Stephani
and I went to the second service. Before we left Nikki, Tim’s wife, stopped
in to see Jan in the hospital. Nikki works there. She said that Jan was
stable and that the boys were going to decide on meds and life support stuff
later that day. She asked me if I was certain of this dream because she was
worried about Tim and how much he believed me. Tim and I sat in the
section that we were sitting in, in the dream. The worship began. After
two songs John Keefer came up to the podium and announced that Jan had
passed away exactly how I had witnessed in the previous dream. The moment
was very shocking and surreal for Tim and I. We sat there silent for a
moment. I was too freaked out about the whole thing to actually realize
that Jan was gone and without warning I began to vomit. So I made my way,
quickly, to the bathroom. I was there quite awhile so Tim became concerned
and got up to see if I was OK. As he left the sanctuary threshold I was
coming out of the bathroom. When we saw each other in that particular
position as we had discussed from the dream we stopped and looked to the
door expecting to see Bill. In came Bill. We three stood there looking
back and forth at each other. Tim and I shocked because we were once again
in the exact places that we were in the dream, and Bill was obviously
wondering what we were doing there. We had not been to CTR in years. Bill
did not look upset because he had not yet heard the news. While we three
looked at each other Janet approached Bill. At that point Tim and I left.
We went to Dave's house to see if they needed anything cleaned up or coffee
or whatever. Ben, Bill’s son, was there with his little brother. He told
Tim and I that Jan knew that she was going to die on Sunday. I said that I
knew. He asked me how. And I told him about the morning that Jan and I
talked. |
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Fulfilled:
Moved to Little Chute
Was already attending CCV |
September of 1999 |
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Dream:
Dave’s house and the pictures. The next day I called Jimbo. |
October early of 1999 |
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Details:
I had a dream, shortly after Jan died, about
some pictures. In the dream Jimbo, Dave’s youngest living son, Bill’s
brother, was searching about the house gathering all of these black and
white pictures. Some I saw. The skulls, a group Dave was in. Ileen and
her mother. Dave’s father. Ect. I was told that I had to continue to go
to Dave’s house until Jimbo gathered these pictures.
I stopped by Lenz’s because I saw Jimbo’s car
there on the way home from dropping the kids off for school. He and Bill
were in the kitchen. Jimbo seemed happy to see me. I asked him to stop
down at my house because I needed to speak to him. He said that he would be
down in five minutes and that he was excited to see my new house. One hour
and forty five minutes later he came down. He seemed upset and distant. He
told me that God had told him not to be with me again. That he was not to
see or speak to me. I asked him then why was he at my house? He said that
he wanted to know what I had to tell him. After I explained to him that He
needed to obey God even if he didn’t understand why, he told me to go ahead
and tell him anyhow. I told him of the dream. He asked me about the
pictures. What type, where I saw him get them from. He listed off some
places in the house. We spoke briefly and he left. He had phoned me once
from Dave’s asking again about where I had seen him looking for the
pictures. Another time when I was over at Dave’s walking Lois I spoke to
Jimbo again about the pictures. |
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Event:
My pastor Tim Snell and I begin to talk about these events. Mindy, his
wife, shortly comes onto the scene. |
Winter of 2000 |
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Event:
Bill goes to Dave and asks him to keep me from coming over to the house. |
Winter of 2000 |
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Word:
Ez. 2 comes again to signify that someone close to Bill is going to die. I
assume that it’s Ben, but was not sure. I was also told that I will have
to shout these prophecies from the roof tops and tell them at the gates of
the city. |
Winter of 2000 |
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Details:
I received a word from the Lord once again as I
was reading Ez. 2. God was telling me that another person close to Bill was
going to die. When discussing it with my friend Katy Brennan, I had
mentioned that I thought it could be Ben Lenz, Bill’s first son. But I was
speculating and resisting the real knowledge that the person would be Dave.
From the previous “picture dream” about Dave I knew that something was going
to happen to him that would cause Dave and I to separate. But I was
unwilling to face that it could be death. Also at the time of the reading
of Ez. God told me again that I would be called to “shout from the roof tops
what He tells me in these secret times.” |
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Event:
Douglas insists that I do not approach Bill with the prophecy and that I
only speak to him if he comes to me. |
June 24, 2000 |
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Details:
Douglas and I had been discussing at length
the dreams and words from the Lord regarding Bill. Also the fact that I had
yet to receive the actual message that I was supposed to give to Bill. He
felt that if God wanted me to speak with Bill about these matters that God
would have to bring Bill to me. Douglas felt that it was not likely for
Bill to contact me. This would be a sort of fleece to see if God actually
wanted me to speak to Bill. |
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Event:
The first of two heart attacks |
June 27, 2000 |
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Event:
Upon my homecoming from Madison I had received a card from Bill opening the
door for a meeting. |
July 3, 2000 |
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Event:
I made an appointment to discuss the contents that were in the card and then
another appointment to discuss the prophecy. Still did not have actual
message. I was certain, however, that it would come in the right time. |
July of 2000 |
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Event:
Dave tells Doug and I that Bill has come and asked him not to let me come to
the house. Dave declines. |
Summer of 2000 |
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Vision:
Eagle on the top. Wolf on the bottom. Both waiting. No interpretation. |
Late summer of 2000 |
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Details:
I had a vision seeing an eagle looking here and
there, as if it were waiting for something. Underneath it was a wolf. It
too looked as if it were waiting only the wolf seemed to have mal intent.
The vision was short and had no interpretation. I prayed often, only
hearing that the interpretation would come. |
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Event:
Dave dies. The pictures are gathered by Jimbo. |
September 10, 2000 |
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Details:
I get a call from Karen Lemuiex. She tells me
that Dave has had a heart attack and has died. I end up in the hospital
with a cardiac event. |
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Event:
The appointment to speak to Bill is rescheduled. |
September 11, 2000 |
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Dream:
Jimbo’s church will only be a foundation but will never be a thriving
church. Bob cries about the pictures. |
September of 2000 |
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Details:
In this dream I am walking into what looks like
a school yard. To my left Bob Lenz is sitting on a teeter-totter looking at
a book crying. To my right and in front of me Jimbo is down on one knee
weeping. In front of him is what looks to be the rubble of a church
building. I ask a man who is walking behind me why Jimbo is crying. I ask
if his church has burned down. He answers and says that the church never
was a church and Jimbo weeps because he thinks that it did not grow because
of him. Some how I know that Jimbo’s blame is misplaced. I approach Bob.
“Why are you crying?” I ask him. He says, “You are not in any of the
pictures.” He shows me the book. It is a history of CTR and family
pictures. I am not in any of the photos. “Why are my pictures not there?”
He says that Bill has taken them out. When I asked him why he told me that
I would have to ask Bill. I asked where Bill was and he pointed down this
little drive way. I could not get to Bill and became very upset, as if he
was in danger. I woke up.
When I woke part of the interpretation was that
Jim’s church would never take off and that Bill was going to do something
that hurt me deeply. |
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Dream/ Vision:
Day after funeral the message comes for Bill. I am spiritually released
from CTR. |
September 14, 2000 |
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Details:
The night before Dave’s funeral I went to his
house. Bob, Jimbo, and Lois were there. We were getting the picture board
ready for Dave’s funeral. We had a good time looking back at the photos. I
was relieved somehow to see some with me on them. There was a funny one
with Jan, Dave and I. We all laughed and Bob told me to pin it to the
board. I fixed it in the upper right hand corner. The next day at the
funeral I went up to the front and looked them over. The picture of Dave
and I was gone. It caused a surreal feeling like I was back in that dream.
I looked over at Jim. It was not until that moment that I realized that I
was looking at the pictures that Jimbo had gathered. That I had to cease
going to Dave’s house because Dave would no longer be there. Jimbo was
watching me. I mouthed the words to him asking if it was he who gathered
the pictures and he nodded yes. I had assumed, because Jim, Bob and Lois
were at Dave’s when I put my picture on that board, that the only one who
could have taken it down was Bill. |
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Word:
Interpretation of eagle/wolf vision comes |
September 15, 2000 |
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Details:
When I woke up the next morning God told me
that He was going to finally give me the actual message that I was to give
to Bill. Here is how I received it to the best of my recollection:
I was to tell Bill both of the dreams and their
outcomes. Then I was to tell him that it was his father who told me that
he, Bill, had asked Dave that I not go to his house. I realized here how I
was actually living out the message. What Bill had done to me and how God
and Dave had responded to that was becoming the actual example of what Bill
would need to repent of. I also came to understand why it had to be me who
had to give the prophecy. I, in the awkward position that I held between
the Lenz family and Bill, was in just the right situation to become an
example of what God wanted to tell Bill. The “rebuke/ prophecy was to begin
like this:
Dave’s house is Dave’s house.
He is the authority there. Bill is the oldest son, but still he is not the
Head. It is not Bill’s place to say who should come to and who should go
from Dave’s house. In the same way CTR is God’s house. He is the authority
there. Bill is the Pastor, but still he is not the head. It is not Bill’s
place to say who should come to and who should go from God’s house. God
told me that I had to live out the message. That He was going to use me as
a “line”. That Bill was sinning by raising people up in ministry that God
was not raising up and also by keeping people from ministering that God was
calling to minister. He said to tell Bill that the vision of the eagle and
the wolf meant this: If Bill would repent of this sin the eagle, who is the
Holy Spirit, will be loosed on CTR and the devil, who is represented by the
wolf, will be bound. If Bill does not repent of this sin the Holy Spirit
will be bound and the devil will be loosed. They are both waiting.
I was then told to remain silent and let Bill
speak. I would be sitting there as an example for him to easily see where
to begin his repentance.
These things were not to remain secret, but
were to be, as God said verbatim;
“What I tell you in your bed chamber you will speak at the
gates of the city and what I whisper in your ear you will shout from the
roof tops.” I did not understand this last directive. |
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Event:
First meeting with Bill. Janet is there for the first half. Discussed any
former trouble between us. Second meeting was scheduled. |
Fall of 2000 |
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Fulfilled:
Met with Bill only. Told him of the dreams and prophecy. Went well. His
response was that he,” received the message as if it was from the Lord”. He
talked for 45 min. about it. |
Late Fall of 2000 |
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Details:
Met with Bill. Told him in detail the dreams
and visions regarding this matter. He listened intently. He asked me if I
had said everything that I felt that I needed to say. Then he told me that
he received what I was telling him as if it was from the Lord. He went on
for nearly forty five minutes explaining why he thought that the sins I was
referring to were actually the sins of his “staff’/Elders. That he was
somehow accountable for their sins and would inevitably have to pay for
their sins. I was deeply concerned but was feeling that my silence was
imperative. I did say at the end of the conversation that I was concerned
that I didn’t say it all correctly and succinctly. He misunderstood what I
was trying to say and responded as if I had said something hurtful. Instead
of trying to clear it up I apologized and told him again that I knew that
God wanted me to stay silent and that I should have said nothing. He seemed
OK with that and I left. His note came soon after thanking me. The note
was sweet and kind. I felt hopeful. |
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Event:
Inaugural Ball party Bill dropped off a card thanking me for coming to speak
with him. Note was kind, sweat and affirming. |
December of 2000 |
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Vision:
Devil is loosed. Families to be hit first. |
January of 2001 |
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Event:
When I woke up the next morning God told me
that He was going to finally give me the actual message that I was to give
to Bill. Here is how I received it to the best of my recollection:
I was to tell Bill both of the dreams and their
outcomes. Then I was to tell him that it was his father who told me that
he, Bill, had asked Dave that I not go to his house. I realized here how I
was actually living out the message. What Bill had done to me and how God
and Dave had responded to that was becoming the actual example of what Bill
would need to repent of. I also came to understand why it had to be me who
had to give the prophecy. I, in the awkward position that I held between
the Lenz family and Bill, was in just the right situation to become an
example of what God wanted to tell Bill. The “rebuke/ prophecy was to begin
like this:
Dave’s house is Dave’s house.
He is the authority there. Bill is the oldest son, but still he is not the
Head. It is not Bill’s place to say who should come to and who should go
from Dave’s house. In the same way CTR is God’s house. He is the authority
there. Bill is the Pastor, but still he is not the head. It is not Bill’s
place to say who should come to and who should go from God’s house. God
told me that I had to live out the message. That He was going to use me as
a “line”. That Bill was sinning by raising people up in ministry that God
was not raising up and also by keeping people from ministering that God was
calling to minister. He said to tell Bill that the vision of the eagle and
the wolf meant this: If Bill would repent of this sin the eagle, who is the
Holy Spirit, will be loosed on CTR and the devil, who is represented by the
wolf, will be bound. If Bill does not repent of this sin the Holy Spirit
will be bound and the devil will be loosed. They are both waiting.
I was then told to remain silent and let Bill
speak. I would be sitting there as an example for him to easily see where
to begin his repentance.
These things were not to remain secret, but
were to be, as God said verbatim;
“What I tell you in your bed chamber you will speak at the
gates of the city and what I whisper in your ear you will shout from the
roof tops.” I did not understand this last directive. |
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Word:
Bob being comforted when he comes home from NY city. Shared with Bob the
next day. |
Spring of 2001 |
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Dream/ Message:
Julie and Greg’s family would be delivered from the devil’s attacks on the
families at CTR. Greg would “come out” with a remnant. He would come and
ask me “the question” and I was to answer him “forthrightly”. |
Summer of 2001 |
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Event:
One morning in the summer of 2001, I awoke
praying for Julie Sampson and her family again. I was told to get up and
call her. I was supposed to tell her that her family “would be delivered
from the attacks on the church’s families.” She had been struggling that
night with those very thoughts. She told me that she had been actually
praying that her family would be “delivered”. I was also told in the dream
to tell Julie, to tell Greg , that “when he came and asked me the question
that I would answer him forthrightly.” I was told that Greg would ask some
sort of question regarding the entire story of the prophecies for CTR. I
was to tell him everything. I told Julie. We discussed only briefly what
that meant. When I spoke to Tim and Mindy regarding this vision I explained
to them that the question that Greg would ask would be something referring
to the entire story of the previous prophecies regarding CTR and Bill. I
also knew that I was to tell him the entire story, careful to retell as many
details as I could remember when we actually spoke. I assumed that we
would have the conversation early the next spring because the vision was set
in early spring. |
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Word:
Five things would happen before the “fall” of the church. Greg would come
w/ the question before the final one. |
Summer of 2001 |
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Details:
I was told that five things would happen in the
church before the church would split five ways.
The first was already
unfolding. The families of the church would be attacked. Marriage’s would
split. The children would be attacked. Not with sickness but with sin.
After a short amount of time I was told that some leaders at CTR had a
meeting to discuss why so many families were splitting apart because the
numbers of families divorcing during that time period were increasing
significantly.
The second thing would be that
the finances would be attacked. The sanctuary of the new building would
never be built. I have been told by CTR members of financial difficulties
being shared from the pulpit at services. That the sanctuary part of the
plans were changed. They still are meeting in the all purpose room.
The third was that the Spirit
of God would leave the church. He showed me this by a short vision of a
camp that looked communist. I asked what communism had to do with this and
I was told that the spiritual authority of CTR would be gone. I understood
that the people attending of course, still had the Spirit of God in them,
but that the spiritual authority given by God to leadership of a local
church was now gone.
The fourth thing was that the
unity of the Pastoral staff would disintegrate. That they would begin to
feel disjointed and separated from each other.
The fifth would be that Greg
Sampson would leave the church with a remnant of people. Before Greg would
actually leave he would come to me and ask the question. I would tell him
the prophecies. Also I was to tell him about these five things. Greg would
leave. Before he actually leaves there will be a membership meeting in
which Bill will announce to the church members that Greg is leaving. He
will say something to the effect that things are not a problem between them
and that this is in no way a split. He does not say at this meeting that
Greg has his blessing to leave. He then steps back from the podium and Greg
steps forward. There is a very large screen, like a TV screen to the right
of the podium. A camera is filming this event. The camera zooms up to
Bill’s face. Bill makes an _expression that shows that he is truly not
happy with Greg leaving. For some reason, when the people see this on the
screen they get up and leave. Not all of the members sitting in the church
at that time leave, but a majority do. That is the last thing that I saw
would happen before the church split. |
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Event:
Some type of leadership meeting reg. the increase of divorces among the
families at CTR. |
Not sure of Date Heard from CTR member |
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Event:
Tim Snell asks me to be silent reg. the prophecies for a time.
I submit. |
August of 2001 |
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Details:
Tim asked me to be silent regarding the telling
of the prophecies. I was instructed from the beginning from God that I was
not to be silent regarding what was unfolding. However, once the five
things were told me I began to hear from families at the Rock about break
ups and family troubles. Tim felt like I should wait and let God do what He
would until the time was right. I believed that Tim had to be certain that
I should tell these things before I went on because he is my spiritual
authority and this whole thing was now involving the devil being loosed on
the people at CTR. I wanted to be very careful that everything I did and
said was under the accountability and spiritual authority of both Tim and my
husband Douglas. Douglas agreed that I should remain silent for a time.
Then God showed me again in Ez. 2-6 that Ez. was also told to be silent for
a time. That confirmed to me that God was speaking through Tim. I then
told two other people who did not previously know about the prophecies in
the following three years. Both of those people I spoke to Tim about before
I told them. |
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Event/ Word:
I ask Tim Snell if he will come with me to speak to Greg, to answer the
question, because I feel that Greg is going to ask me soon. |
March of 2004 |
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Fulfilled:
Greg asks the question. Tim Snell is on vacation. I ask Greg to tape it. |
Monday, March 8, 2004 |
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Details:
On Monday, March 8th
2004 Julie approached me at L.C. Elementary while we were picking up our
children. She asked me to pray for the church. She told me that things
were not going well for Greg. Somehow in the conversation she asked me
about the time that I told her that Greg was going to ask me “the
question.” I retold her to the best of my ability exactly what I
remembered. She asked me if I would write it out for Greg. When I gave her
the note I asked her to tell Greg that, “when I told his Pastor this message
he said that he received it as if it were from the Lord”.
She called me later and asked me to stop in
when I picked up Elias from her house.
When I arrived Greg was also pulling into the
drive way. She handed him the note while we both entered the kitchen. He
read it and then explained that he could not hear what I wanted to say
because it would be stepping out from under his spiritual covering. I asked
Julie if she had told him what I asked her to tell. Julie then informed
Greg of Bill’s response. Greg went out of the room for a time. When he
came back into the kitchen he asked me if I had time to tell him the
message. I said that I did and he then said, ”I am asking you the
question”. I asked him then if he would tape the conversation because Tim
Snell was out of town on vacation and he may want to hear exactly what I
say. So we taped the first part up until his recorder was full.
I told him the entire dreams
and visions that lead up to the message for Bill. I told him that Bill
received it and then about the following visions regarding CTR’s demise. I
also told him that God had been calling me to tell this story to whoever
would listen and even to those who would not listen. But that I would wait
for my Pastor to release me. Giving Greg at least one week before the story
would begin being told. I felt certain that when Tim knew that I had spoke
to Greg that he would release me because God had already begun to prepare me
for the difficulties that would follow.
When I finished telling Greg
all that had happened I then heard from God and began prophesying to Greg.
Here is what I remember of the prophecy as closely as I can recall:
“I am now going to prophecy to
you. In the dark days ahead of you men who you see as spiritual authority
will tell you that leaving is not from God. They are wrong. The Spirit of
God is with you. He has called you out. He has given you a vision and a
calling. You are looking here and there saying when is it the time of the
Lord and He is saying the time is already at hand. The longer you stay at
CTR the more painful it will be for your family and for those who will
follow you out.” To these statements Greg two or three times said, ”This is
what the Lord is telling me.”
Julie called me a few days later and told me that two men in
Greg’s life had confirmed to him that the prophecies were from the Lord.
She thanked me on her and Greg’s behalf. |
|
Event:
I speak with the Elders from CCV about what is happening with Greg and the
need for a spiritual covering while Tim is out of state. They wait to
release me to speak until Tim gets home. |
Wednesday, 10 March, 2004 |
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Event:
Tim speaks to the Elders. They release me to begin speaking to people about
the prophecies. |
Wednesday, 17 March, 2004 |
